2014 December Meeting
Attendees: Leo, Paul, Dann, Doug, Gaelan, Colin
Pre-meeting chatting
LOTS of stuff.
- The dynamic -> lexical binding sea change took a really long time
- Allows some interesting optimization
- Leo mentions the Appel paper that briefly touched on approaches that become possible if your language has no pointer comparison operator
- The Purple Dragon Book (has it been surpassed lately?)
- all of the parsing stuff is pretty much irrelevant if you’re using LISP
- Doug mentions Marpa parsers. A parsing technique that fell out of favor in the ~60s for being unrealistic due to the large memory requirements. Apparently they’re not “large” by today’s standard.
- Thrust is mentioned
Doug shows Thrust
- The idea is: lets make GUI apps, without doing something stupid like wx widgets, or TK
- A framework to make cross-platform native GUIs, but the back-end is written in HTML
- The
hello world
for this is refreshingly tiny, given some other GUI equivalents - Interesting little JSON API that lets you interact with the Chromium GUI front-end, and receive event notifications from user interactions
- Seems to segfault if you look at it funny
- As an aside, in-band signalling is the source of lots and LOTS of bugs
- C and the POSIX standard have constantly been amended to take into account the fact that programmers need to return a value AND an error through the same channel
- The Right Way(tm) in a language like C is to make the
return
value of a function signal only itserror
status, and take an extra pointer argument into which to deposit actual return values
use common::sense;
makes things better. If you’re programming in PERL.- Thrust is pretty cool for making “native” apps without binding yourself for a particular platform
Leo talks about a crazy Lisp interpreter
- Mentions Baking Pi